All Hybrids Drives , Fuel-Electric ,
Fuel-Hydraulic,Fuel-Flywheel,Fuel
Hydrogen etc'. are an Intermediate
Drive till the Pure Electic Drive.
No doubt that the Fuel,coal,gas are
also an intermediate solution till
the mile stone that will indicate
No More Dependency On hostile
sources. It is time to invest on
safer , reliable nuclear technology
to produce clean safe electricity.
Read the attched PDF file.
Nahum Goldenberg info@hydrocad.com

HP_Forum-DRIVE_THE_FUTURE-EN.pdf (97 Kb, 250 downloads)

How long has Nuc;ear power been available and how long have we known Fossil Fuel is limited?????
Do you really think the Powers that Be will allow Nuclear Power at this time. Too much money to be made by socking it to us wit high prices to keep warm and get to work to make enough money to pay the high prices.

Hi Bud,
Just thing how much we, in the
"west world" are paying due to
the dependency on oil and how
much we pay due to economical
and political iterests.
Nahum

I know this is off topic but I agree with Nahum
I am for nuclear power. I know it can be done safely.
However, if you think it is hard to find a few trained hydraulic people, think how hard it is to find trained nuclear people.
Accidents like 3MI (three mile island ) and Chernobyl are inexcusable and set back nuclear power by decades. Chernobyl was caused by violating procedure and 3MI was made worse by I lack if training. I don't think any US Navy nuclear trained person would have made the mistakes at 3MI.

Mean while France has standardized reactors plants that allows for some economies of scale and supplies a greater proportion of their power than the US.

Sure the US has more energy in the form of coal in the ground than the arabs have oil but if you look at the lives lost due to mining coal they far exceed the lives lost in due to nuclear power and the carbon emissions have a cost that can't yet be measured.

Budt, it is the environmentalist that oppose nuclear power but even green peace is wonder what is the lessor of two evils. Nuclear power or fossil fuel burning plants. Nuclear power can be practical now.

So what the the hell do I know about nuclear power? I was a reactor control officer on a nuclear submarine and long time ago.

If I were in charge I would use only US Navy nuclear train personnel run the plants. They need the shore duty anyway. Being a navy nuke is no fun. The civilian operators have proved to be incompetent. The better ones that aren't incompetent are probably ex-navy nukes any way.

It isn't just 3MI. Even where I live there was a nuclear plant called Trojan. It was shut down because there were steam generator leaks. This allows primary fluid ( radioactive ) to mix with the secondary fluid ( hopefully non radioactive ) This is caused by only two reasons. First, is a defect in the steam generator. Radiological test should have verified if the steam generators were assembled correctly. The second problem is steam generator water chemistry. The PH or how basic or acid the water is must be carefully controlled. If not the water can corrode the steam generator tubes so they leak. These kinds of mistakes are inexcusable. Therefore the people that run these nuclear plant must be perfect or at least collectively perfect. Any mistake is a mistake forever.

So Budt. Were do you get these perfect people? You can't even find enough people to keep oil from dropping on the ground.

The answer to all the problems is education. So pays and what are the rewards?

Why does a quarter back that doesn't complete 100% of his passes deserve millions of dollars when a nuclear plant operator must be perfect and receives maybe 200,000 dollars if he is lucky?

It is our warped cultural values that are at fault. It isn't the power that be.

By the way nuclear power school is better than almost any university but the price one pays to get that education is very high.

Hi Peter ,
Look at the car , Aircraft , Ship ,
Airospace , Spaceships & Submarine
evolution . It was " A small Step
for Man & a Big one for Mankind".
If it is not accepable that the
"West World" will continue to be
depended on Hostile Countries ,
then it is time NOW TO MAKE THE
SMALL STEP.....
Thanks Peter - Nahum

Peter wrote:

quote:

The answer to all the problems is education. So who pays and what are the rewards?

My sentiments exactly Peter.

The learners pay and also reap the rewards if they have enough forethought to see the big picture. Hopefully it is not the College of Hard Knocks though, Then everyone pays and some dearly.

BTW Excellent post in my opinion.

Hi Peter,
I am excited from your idea to
employ professionals from the
nuclear "sausage" .
Nuclear Submarines seems to be
safe if manufactured in US .
Forget about Chernobyl and the
Russian Submarine.
We have to drive the future
forward.
Nahum
info@hydrocad.com

Very interesting, funny how live goes, only a few days ago I had a similar conversation about this general topic.

Our entire economy is based on Natural Gas and Oil, which few people here realize, will be finished in 6 to 7 years max ..... Nuclear Power eh.

I've been to the Nuclear Power Plant east of Toronto Canada about 12 years ago. Made a delivery there with a Semi Truck, to be honest didn't even know it was there til my dispatcher gave me the paperwork. Very tight security and well kept grounds.

Andi

Hi Andi,
Thanks for comments. It is pity that
leaders, even in North America are so
limited in their vision. A few months
ago Mr. Bloomberg-N.Y. Mayor,declared
during a meeting of N.Y. taxi Drivers
that in 2012 all N.Y. Cabs will be of
Hybrid - two engines drive. I am sure
that 35000 Cabs in N.Y.+ L.A. Chicago
and others have enough economical power
that can cause an US Cab manufacturer
to accept the chalenge + governmental
support to "Drive The Future".
I am ready to contribute my knowladge
but it is not enough. It should be a
an Free World Interest.....
Nahum
the power to

Here is another interesting Hybrid site:

http://www.nextenergy.org/industryservices/Hybrid__Hydraulics.asp

Hi Bud,
Again , it is a two engine configuration.
My idea is to use pure electric drive and
improved and safer nuclear power stations.
Nahum

Check out this link, it's not an electrical direct drive, but I guess electricity would be needed to run the compressor which would recharge the air storage tank(s). I'm not an expert in pneumatic design, but I think there is merit to this, the concept is certainly very interesting:

http://www.engineair.com.au/index.htm

Might just have to re-think my scooter idea ... lol

quote:

Originally posted by Andi:
I think there is merit to this, the concept is certainly very interesting:

I to think that pneumatics have merit. I also think the electric capacitor cars have merit. Think about this. Both methods of storing energy are similar in that chemicals aren't involved. An accumulator in hydraulics or pneumatics is analogous to a capacitor in the electrical field. Both drive methods would be simple can can be powered from the electrical grid and there is one one drive system.
http://www.businessweek.com/autos/content/jun2006/bw20060628_655501.htm
I am betting on the capacitors. Until then the pneumatics may work for short commutes.

Hi Peter,
The future is just here . The main issue
is the specific Energy per Weight.
The evolution will lead to Innovation.
Have a look at Flow Battery.
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http://www.mpoweruk.com/flow.htm

Nahum Goldenberg

The future in here.
Have a look at the Tesla-Sport Car
220 mpc(miles per charge)
http://www.teslamotors.com

Nahum Goldenberg